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Alderney a small island off the coast of the Cherbourg Peninsular one of the Channel Islands and a Crown dependency. 3miles x 1.5miles.
In June 1940 its entire population was removed and sent to either the other Channel islands or to Britain (most ended up in Glasgow). Then the German occupation forces arrived on the 2nd July. Hitler thinking that the British would attempt at recapturing, ordered it to become a Festung and later combined into the Atlantikwall.
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Band playing on Alderney.
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Ausboustand-karte Alderney.
Ausboustand-karte Alderney.
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Fort Grosnez or “Grey Headland” (Norse) the fort dates back to the 14c. In 1859 Fort Grosnez armed with two 8˜ howitzers, six 68-pounder guns, sixteen 32-pounders and four 24-pounders. By 1893 all but two guns had been removed and that is how the Germans found Fort Grosnez.
Flak Regiment 197.
2 x R670 casemates for a medium pivot gun (90°).
6 x 2cm Flak 30.
2 x 60cm Search lights.
1 x 150cm Search light.
2 x 10.5cm
K331 (f) guns.
1 x Generator house.
Many x Machine gun/defence positions.
Mine fields.
32pdr cannon.
68pdr cannon.
24pdr cannon.
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10.5cm
K331 (f) gun.
2cm Flak 30.
150cm searchlight.
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Stormy view over Braye and the harbour with Fort Grosnez The fort was built to defend the harbour of Braye by the English and when in the 19c. the English also decided to build a massive harbour to equal the ones being built in Cherbourg & Brest by their enemies the French, to protect the English fleet. There was to be two walls but only one was started and cost so much money. Also history overtook its construction in the way ships were being designed (steel ironclads, deeper drafts & the French became allies and not enemies) that it became redundant and was left.
Plan.
A picture showing the draft of a boat, the bit that is under the water.
How the designs of the harbour changed.
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Fort Grosnez from the other side.
Building started 1851 to 1853.
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The road towards Fort Grosnez with Glacés of the fort (the large grass area on the left) with a row of machine gun embrasures along the top.
Plan. Red the road and yellow machine gun embrasures.
Machine guns.
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The first 2cm Flak.
A square compound probably pre occupation but strengthened and a 2cm Flak placed on the top corner.
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The first 2cm Flak.
Looking down to the inside you can see two of the three pads for the gun to sit. Niches on the right for ready ammunition and also just outside the entrance..
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2cm Flak 30.
2cm Flak bases.
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The first 2cm Flak.
The flak position inside the compound with an ammunition bunker space underneath it.
2cm Flak 30.
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The first 2cm Flak.
The compound strengthened concrete walls.
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Fort Grosnez from the breakwater pier.
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Fort Grosnez. The slits are English rifle embrasures.
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Fort Grosnez new entrance. I am not sure when this entrance was opened up.
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Fort Grosnez I think the old entrance.
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Inside the Fort.
Large casemates used for magazines and accommodation.
Corporal of Horse Life Guards 1882.
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Inside the Fort.
Large casemates used for accommodation.
1895 picture of the area.
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Inside the Fort.
Another view to the left.
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1895.
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Inside the Fort.
Ramp and steps up to the battlements. A way for troops to access the ramparts and also to draw guns up the ramp pulled by pulley and man power.
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Up on the roof you can see the rear of an R670 casemate for a 10.5cm K331 (f). On the roof is a 2cm Flak position.
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R670 casemate for a 10.5cm K331 (f) with attached Tobruk.
R670 casemate with added Tobruk.
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R670 casemate.
Entrance to the Tobruk.
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R670 casemate.
Inside the Tobruk.
Sprachrohr mouthpiece fitting.
Sprachrohr mouthpiece to talk to inside the bunker.
Relay box for a telephone
Relay box telephone.
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R670 casemate.
Tobruk and the Man from the Black Lagoon.
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R670 casemate.
Tobruk and the stairs down. Something we have noticed here on Alderney are the amount of Tobruks with added aerials, that is the vertical slit in the far wall. I have not noticed evidence of an aerial being fitted and I have not noticed a hole in the top of the Tobruks..
Aerial slot in a bunker.
Plan of an aerial fitting.
Small radio.
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The view across the casemate to the 2cm Flak position.
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R670 casemate.
Rear entrance
R670 casemate plan.
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R670 casemate.
Ammunition room.
R670 casemate plan.
10.5cm ammunition box.
10.5cm ammunition box.
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R670 casemate.
Communications box and second ammunition room with vent pipes.
R670 casemate plan.
How it may have looked on the wall.
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R670 casemate.
Ventilation pipe to suck out the foul gases when the gun fires.
R670 casemate plan.
Plan of the extraction on an R669 casemate.
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R670 casemate.
Ammunition room and vent pipe where an electrical fan would have been fitted. The fan motor would have sat on the concrete block.
R670 casemate plan.
Extractor electric fan of the type that may have been there.
Extraction pipes on an R669.
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R670 casemate.
Communication cables running around the bunker these are inside the ammunition room.
R670 casemate plan.
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R670 casemate.
Gun room for a 10.5cm K331 (f) gun.
R670 casemate plan.
Periscope fitting up in the roof.
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How it would have looked, this one is from Guernsey.
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R670 casemate.
The guns hold fast set onto the concrete floor and then the gun bolted on the top.
10.5cm K331 (f) gun.
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Another 10.5cm K331 (f) gun.
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R670 casemate.
The view out of the embrasure over Crabby Bay and Fort Platte Saline.
R670 casemate plan.
Inside a field gun casemate.
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R670 casemate.
The wood used to make up the shuttering on embrasures .
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R670 casemate.
Periscope fitting..
Bunker periscope.
Periscope hole in the top of a bunker.
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R670 casemate.
The communication box lid.
Batch on the lid.
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R670 casemate.
Looking back to the entrance steps.
R670 casemate plan.
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R670 casemate.
The hooks on the wall are either for bunk beds which seems an odd place to out them or for cleaning rods to hang.
R670 casemate plan.
Cleaning rods on a bunker wall.
If they are for beds they may have been like these.
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R670 casemate.
Looking at the embrasure.
Plan.
How it would have looked.
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Up on the roof of the R670 casemate looking into the 2cm Flak on the other roof with an ammunition room below.
Plan.
Plan of Flak.
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Entering the 2cm Flak ammunition room I found a shield for a 2cm Flak that may have been the gun that was above.
This is a 2cm Flak 30/38 showing the shield around the gun.
2cm Flak 38/02 shield.
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Flak above and ammunition below.
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I have been trying to work this one out. The 2cm Flak has a base which can sit on three pads. I wonder if the gun was dismounted from its chassis and bolted directly down?? as the three pads would not fit on a round base.
2cm Flak.
Base plans for 2cm Flak mountings.
This is a round base on the right flank.
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I believe this is an English post to direct the fire of the battery along the roof.
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Two of the three English gun mountings.
32lbr cannon.
Plan of the 32ldr guns.
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Moving on to an entrance in the old wall.
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Turning the corner.
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Still going down lovely Victorian stone and brick work..
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This is an embrasure for a 60cm searchlight that would be fitted with railway style wheels to run on two tracks. Pulled in to clean/maintain and store. Push out to use it.
Electricity came from a generator on the south side of the fort.
60cm search light.
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Search light embrasure.
Searchlight embrasure.
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View out of the searchlight embrasure at some maybe extra defence positions???
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Walking back out of the tunnel. Spooky.
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Above the glacés. A row of machine gun positions.
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Working from right to left. Guard shelter then English rifle port on the right side.
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Large machine gun embrasure and also could be used as an observation post.
Looking under the embrasure there are marks on the wall where a wooden table was to lay the machine gun on.
A small niche in the wall possibly to hold spare ammunition.
How it may have looked.
Looking at the wood lined niche.
Boxes of 7.92mm belted rounds for a machine gun.
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Large machine gun embrasure and also could be used as an observation post. The nice view right out over the town and Crabby bay.
Wooden covers over the embrasure.
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One of the middle ones embrasures.
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The view along the top.
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A total mix of ages here.
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Entrance to the left hand machine gun position.
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Not one but incredibly two machine gun embrasures. Just imagine what the noise and smells when two guns were fired together.
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Crated Mg34.
WW1 type water cooled MG may also been used here.
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Niche cupboard on the side possibly for ammunition.
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2cm Flak position.
2cm Flak with range finder behind.
2cm bases.
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A view of the harbour.
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The view north.
Plan.
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Steps up-to the next roof.
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Four 32lpdr cannon sat on the roof here and also 2 x 2cm Flak guns.
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32lpdr cannon.
2cm Flak 30.
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Ammunition niche with protected entrance or it may have been a small air-raid shelter??
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32lbdr cannon base with chaser ring and pivot mount.
32lbdr cannon.
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Another 2cm Flak position on a round base.
2cm Flak 30.
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The view from above also showing the ready ammunition niches set into the protected wall.
2cm magazines in their box.
2cm magazines in their box.
2cm Flak tool kit.
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The view down onto the square.
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Interesting ramp, most British military establishments had a lorry ramp to service and clean the undersides of the vehicles. Was this German or British Army pre or post war??
MT ramp in Dorset.
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Heading down into the depths of depravity.
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A long ramp down to a close combat defence embrasure.
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Close combat embrasure below a
Close combat defence embrasure.
Close combat defence machine gun.
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Nice Cyrillic writing urging the soldiers on. “Lasst den Schwächling angstvoll zagen! Wer um Hohes kämpft, muss wagen! Leben gilt es oder Tod”.
"Let the weakling fearfully timid! He who fights for greatness must dare! It is a matter of life or death".
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The depths of Depravity.
Its pretty grim in here.
Another close combat defence at the far wall.
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the only real detail here I can give is that there was a 19P7 steel door.
19P7 door.
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Stairs down to the next floors. The ground floor is accessed by a steel ladder and both floors are flooded with sea water and all have half dead and some not very alive Pigeons. Quite yucky.
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Close combat defence on the right and a lot of Pigeon pooooooo.
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Heading out through the mire.
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More writing on the wall.
“Herr, lass mich hungern dann und wann, Satt sein macht feig und träge, und schick mir Feinde, Mann um Mann, Kampf hält die Kräfte rege.”
“Lord, let me hunger now and then, being full makes one cowardly and lazy, and send me enemies, man for man, fighting keeps the strength active.”
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R670 casemate, set into the Victorian stone work. A steel dome regaled the roof (now removed). Several machine gun positions on three levels..
If it had a dome it may be like this one.
Looking up from the entrance.
The domed roof with six embrasures for a fortress machine gun, a periscope and viewing slots.
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The other side of the tower showing some more machine gun positions.
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Coming out.
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The route to a Tobruk up the steel ladder.
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Another Flak position I just managed to reach.
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On the right a gun base but was empty by 1945.
In front a shelter bunker.
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Gun base but was empty by 1945.
Possibly a 10cm or 10.5cm field gun position.
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The entrance into the shelter.
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